Talk:Friedrich Nietzsche

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Influences and Influenced[edit]

I removed the Influences and Influenced lists from the infobox. Many of the names listed were not, as per the editing note at the beginning of the lists, “explained and cited in the body of the article.”

The main influences and those influenced are in the body of the article in sections such as the lead, Friedrich Nietzsche#Reading and influence and Friedrich Nietzsche#Reception and legacy. Many of the names in the lists could not be verified as either influences or influenced: WP:VERIFY states that “All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable.”

As so many people have read and been influenced by Nietzsche, compiling a list of those he has influenced is a gargantuan task. By what criteria do we decide who belongs on such a list? How do we gauge who was most strongly influenced and who was only mildly influenced? As the lists has strayed so far from the original intent, it’s best to leave the influences and influenced to names mentioned in the body of the article and remove them from the infobox. - cheers - Epinoia (talk) 14:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can it be rephrased?[edit]

As someone who isn't an English native speaker, I find it hard to understand the following sentence and even translate it

"It does so by making out slave weakness, for example, to be a matter of choice, by relabeling it as "meekness".

For example the phrase "making out" has a lot of different meanings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 15:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why are we prioritizing interpretations over original source[edit]

Why are we prioritizing interpretations over original source?

There is overwhelming German propaganda on this article with centuries old anti-Slavic, anti-Polish, antisemitic "interpretations" vs original source reporting of history.

The language on this article in English is grossly biased and the German article even more so. 2A00:F41:48B4:2642:3D97:825E:2564:EFA1 (talk) 16:43, 21 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Elisabeth in the lead[edit]

A paragraph in the lead is dedicated to blaming Elisabeth Forster-Nietzsche for the twisting of Nietzsche's words to suit the Nazi POV. Her article, however, presents an alternative theory that it was the wider Party rather than her specifically that undertook the mistranslation.

I'm hardly a philosophy expert, but I feel like this should be rectified - I couldn't find sources that suggests her role is under debate, other than the source in her article that I'm not 100% sure on reliability. Could a smarter person than I explain the differences? Couruu (talk) 16:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]